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Dec 28, 2012 10:00am PST
last-ditch effort to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. >> getting a little more optimistic today. there's sometimes darkest before the dawn. >> right now we are at a stalemate because we haven't been willing to -- democrats haven't been willing to consider the issue of spend. >> there's some signs of possible flexibility but first of all, it would be helpful if the house of representatives came back. >> like it was a harvard law review just to show who is the smartest person in the room. we don't need the smartest person in the room. we immediate somebody to say all right, america, we need to deal with revenues. that's the bad news. we immediate to deal with the medicare fiscal cliff or you are not going on get your medical bills paid. >> remembering an american original. >> iraqis are dumb muff to attack her going to pay a terrible price. >> nicknamed stormin' norman for his ledgendary temper. he died thursday due to complications from pneumonia. >>> it is a year comes to a close, we look back at the amr moments that left us starstruck and speechless in 2012. >>> good day. i'm l
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 6:00am PST
whether a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is in the works or out of the question. in what passes for a sign of hope, senate staff members spent saturday shuttling papers presumably containing proposals between harry reid and mitch mcconnell's offices. both the senate and house are meeting today. joins me touk at that about where things stand is darrell issa of california and done nan edwards and michigan senator debbie sab snow and jon ba wrasse o from wyoming. what's up? what is happening that you can tell us about? >> well, there's a lot of work going on right now on both sides of the aisle in the senate to come to an aagreement. to me there's take basic principle, and if everybody agrees we can go forward. that is, don't hold middle class families hostage to the debate about whether or not the wealthiest americans should get another tax cut. i would argue we can't afford it as a country, but the question is, are we going to allow middle class families to see their taxes go up while we have this debate? if we can agree we will continue tax cuts for the middle class, everything else begins
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 6:00pm PST
the fiscal cliff. you've been hearing for months now about the cliff crisis. you've heard a lot about whether or not it will matter, you've heard about the offers and the counteroffers president obama and house speaker john boehner put on the table. if you live in the game area, you're going to be reading about the cliff whether you like it or not. we at starbucks have an opportunity and i believe a responsibility to use our company's scale for good, by sending a respectful and optimistic message to our officials to come together and reach important ground. this week, through december 28th, partners at our washington, d.c., area stores are writing come together on customer's cups. i am hugely in favor of this new starbucks initiative. not because i think writing come together on coffee cups will bring anybody in washington together, i have an embarrassing coffee order, i'm hoping they will write over my order and people won't judge me. >>> i want to step back and give you five things to remember this week. think of it as fiscal cliff notes. number one, there is a giant misconception to clear
FOX News
Dec 28, 2012 8:00am PST
faulkner. with just days to go until the fiscal cliff deadline president obama and top congressional leaders are set for a crucial meeting. expectations are low for a deal when house and senate leaders head to the white house this afternoon to meet there with president obama. lawmakers are increasingly looking at the period following the december 31st deadline we're told to come up with a fix to avoid massive tax hikes and spending cuts, affect lives of nearly every american many economists say could plunge the economy into another recession. chief white house correspondent ed henry live with the latest. so in this meeting, ed, is there any hope they will accomplish anything? >> reporter: well it is pretty low expectations, jon. what we're expecting when you talk to top officials of both parties the president will offer a scaled back plan, something he laid out lines friday before christmas here in the white house briefing room before he went to hawaii. where he said look, we have to scale back expectations. basically just extend middle class tax cuts. don't worry about the rates for
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 4:00pm PST
of the fiscal cliff and we're keeping a close eye on negotiations. >> we're going to spell out what the talks could mean to you and if lawmakers fail to reach a deal what the fallout will be for you and your wallet. you're looking at pretty pictures of capitol hill. i don't know if the scene is pretty but the pictures are. >> the lights are on, the question is, is anybody home? what seems to be a bitter stalemate between democrats and republicans on the fiscal cliff, we have learned of a bit of change this evening with the negotiations. for one, we have learned that the senate will reconvene tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. that means no decision tonight. we have also learned senator mitch mcconnell, the republican minority leader, has had conversations directly with vice president biden. mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have gotten things done when working together in the past. can they do it now? let's go to dana bash. dana, what do you think? is it promising? can they go it now? >> reporter: well, let's start there. it certainly has happened before
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal.
FOX News
Dec 29, 2012 3:00pm PST
own budget battle right now, the fiscal cliff. and the fact that the president wanted to tax the wealthy at a higher rate than what the middle class would get. there is something we might be able to learn from what's going on in france right now? >> i think the thing to learn at the moment that they've been trying in france is probably second nature to an american. what they're trying to learn in france is that it's not bad news to be an entrepreneur. if you have this entrepreneur spirit, you can do it. but you do have to put things in slowly and to reach out and i think that's where the president of france has lost a lot of ground. he didn't get a lot of people on his side, even though he said that this tax hike would only be for a very small proportion of the population and would only be for two years. but because it was seen to have been rushed through, not properly spelled out, it was difficult. >> kelly: one final question, if i may, what kind of deficit reduction would this tax be able to provide for the people of france, if you incur 75% tax because you just happen to
FOX News
Dec 30, 2012 11:00am PST
." >> chris: and hello again from fox news in washington. well, it turns out the fiscal cliff is going to be a cliff-hanger with less than two days until the new year, senate leaders are still trying to work out a deal to avoid tax increases on almost every american. but any compromise will do close to nothing about our debt problem. joining us now to discuss what kind of deal they will and won't vote for are two key senators. democrat dianne feinstein and republican lindsey graham. and senators, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> good morning. >> thank you. >> chris: senator are graham, a couple of days ago you you said you thought we were going to go over the fiscal cliff. now, we are in the midst of a lot of last ditch pa bargaining between the senate leaders reid and mcconnell. what do you think of the chances for a small deal in the next less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff? >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff if we can avoid it. i think what have we accomplished? political victory for the president. he stood his ground and he will get tax rate
CNN
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
the fiscal cliff? >>> a dangerous winter storm roaring across the eastern half of the u.s. bringing blizzard conditions and travel nightmares. plus, the nra's controversial proposal to put armed volunteers in every school, we'll go in-depth with the man in charge of the national school shield program. i'm joe johns. you're in "the situation room." the u.s. is now just six days away from the so-called fiscal cliff. and a mad scramble is on here in washington to avoid the drastic tax hikes and spending cuts that many fear will plunge the economy back into recession. president obama flies back from hawaii tonight to be ready if the senate comes back with a plan when it returns to work tomorrow. and house leaders are huddling with members on stand-by to return. senior congressional correspondent dana bash is following all of it for us. what are you hearing? >> there was a conference call of course members of the house leadership even, they're back in their districts, but there was a conference call today among those house republican leaders trying to figure out if and when the house should come
FOX News
Dec 28, 2012 7:00pm PST
to monitor here on the fox news channel america on the brink. the latest on the fiscal cliff. let not your heart be troubled. that is all the time we have left but greta is standing by to go on the record. we'll see you back here monday captioned by closed captioning services, inc. >> greta: this s a fox news alert. 74 hours to go before president obama, the senate and the house shove america off the fiscal cliff. let's go to capitol hill fox news chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live with the latest. >> we are heading into a critical weekend as a final push is made to keep the u.s. economy from going off the fiscal cliff. after a late afternoon meeting with the top four congressional leaders at the white house, president obama offered this assessment. >>> i'm modestly optimistic -- nobody is going to get 100% of what they want. but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> sources say house speaker are john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told th
FOX News
Dec 29, 2012 1:00pm PST
on that? >> as mike reported president obama is looking to break the fiscal cliff negotiations by giving an ultimatum to republicans either compromise on the budge deal or risk facing an up or down vote in the senate on a basic proposal that would include many elements that were previously rejected by the g.o.p. how well the next couple of display out and will the president's tactics work? joining us is jamie weinstein. what do you think of that? >> i don't know if his threats are going to work very much because even his proposal has to have the acquiescence of all senators. the fact of the matter is senators know whether they do something or not the next day after the fiscal cliff there is going to be a bill in congress to lower tax rates after all the tax rates expire below $250,000. maybe at this point it looks like the big win that the republicans might get, if you want to call it that, is extending that slightly upwards to $400,000 or $500,000. this is bare bones deal. we're not solving our fiscal approximate and not discussing it. this is going to be fought another day, perhaps in
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 4:00pm PST
leader harry reid says we're all headed for fiscal disaster. >> if we go over the cliff, and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left before the first of the year, aren't here. >> we're now told the house will finally return to work on sunday. now, that's december 30th. in other words, less than 48 hours before we go over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, president obama cut his hawaii vacation short to return to washington today. but has he been working on a deal? "outfront" tonight, reports from both ends of pennsylvania avenue. chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin, and senior congressional correspondent, dana bash. jessica, first, to you, the president's back in washington, wheels down. he left his christmas vacation early. but was this just a bit of showmanship, or has he been working on something specific? >> reporter: hey, john. well, today has been a bit of a quiet day here at the white house. publicly, the president has been scarce, no sign of him. behind closed doors, i'm told a few meetings i
CNN
Dec 24, 2012 6:00am PST
on the fiscal cliff deadline on december 31st. retiring senator joe lieberman puts the potential failure in historic perspective. >> i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal, consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military, which democrats have been calling for for years, and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> so, hey, merry christmas. our white house correspondent brianna keilar is traveling with the president in honolulu. brianna, are the white house and republicans even talking? >> reporter: no. they're not, carol. there's no substantive discussions going on between the white house and senate democrats and senate republicans and house republicans. and this is key because in order for the cliff
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 6:00pm PST
in the fiscal cliff fight. i put my faith in them to continue to raise this flag and to say, we cannot let congress leave washington without taking care of these folks. >> john nichols, as always, thank you so very much, my friend. that's it for the ed show. ezra klein is filling in for rachel tonight. always good to see you, my friend. >> good to see you too, and happy friday. and thanks to you at home for sticking around for the next hour. rachel's got the night off, but we learned something huge today. we are going over the fiscal cliff. we are going either all the way over or going partly over, but we are definitely, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it i
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 3:00am PST
's got the night off, but we learned something huge today. we are going over the fiscal cliff. we are going either all the way over or going partly over, but we are definitely, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow me a quick update here. that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 1:00pm PST
, the vice president, and the treasury secretary trying to hammer out a fiscal cliff deal. the meeting began about an hour ago in what could be the final face-to-face meeting between the president and lawmakers of both parties before monday's midnight deadline. the house is scheduled to reconvene on sunday evening to do what we don't exactly know. so joining us live from the white house is nbc's kristin welker. kristin, welcome. >> reporter: thanks, karen. good afternoon. >> so what are we hearing about this meeting? i know it's still going on. any news? >> reporter: well, we do know this, a source familiar with these talks says that president obama is not going to be offering anything new during this afternoon's meeting. he's essentially going to be saying what he said at the white house last friday when he called on congress to put forth a package that would extend bush era tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less, extend unemployment insurance benefits, as well as stave off some of those deep spending cuts that are set to go into effect. the president is going to make the argument that
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 11:00am PST
for politics. less than three days until the so-called fiscal cliff and congress still trying to hammer out a deal. they've had 515 days to work this out. still, though, capitol hill leaders are at an impasse and starting next week, you and i could see our paychecks cut as payroll taxes go up and that could be just the beginning. the clock at the bottom right of your screen there might as well have a blaringa, large on it because come midnight monday if lawmakers have not found the fiscal cliff solution you're going to hear a whole heck of a lot of noise. let's get straight to washington. nbc's kristen welker at the white house and luke russert is tracking developments at capitol hill and nbc news senior political editor mark murray is here to break it down for us from the washington bureau. we will start with kristen. last we heard, kristen welker, the president came out to report that he is modestly optimistic. has the rhetoric changed at all today? >> reporter: it has changed a little bit. the president is still modestly optimistic, but i just spoke with a democratic source who tells me
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 10:00pm PST
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MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 1:00pm PST
're calling it the fiscal cliff. [ speaking foreign language ] >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> let's take the american people out of the line of fire in terms of taxes. >> it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. >> i have never known john boehner not to have a plan. >> it seems pretty dark right now. >> it looks like there's no way there's going to be any deal done. >> so i say to the speaker, take the escape hatch we've left you. >> we're not going to get anything done that doesn't involve some measure of compromise. >> it's not 100% sure that's going to work any longer, and now that we know how fanatical the fanatics are. >> it's like blah, blah, blah. >>> a very busy day here in washington and we want to take you right to the senate floor where senator mitch mcconnell is actually speaking about the fiscal cliff. let's take a listen. >> we'll see what the president has to propose. members on both sides of the aisle will review it, and then we'll decide how best to proceed. hope
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 6:00am PST
.c. 10:00 p.m. hawaii time. there doesn't seem to be a lot of urgency rarg the fiscal cliff. are they geared up and ready to work on this? >> i think they are. they are hoping that the pressure to get something done will encourage everyone to come to the table to compromise. if you think about it, they have less than a week to get a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. not a lot of time. how did we get to this point? taking you back to last week, you remember john boehner tried to get that alternative bill through the house. his own bill. he didn't have the support to do it. it fell apart. now things are in the senate and it will be up to harry reid and mitch connell and the president to try to come to a compromise to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts that go into effect on the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner and trying to get a big deal that dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart and talks have largely been stalled this entire time. there was a lost pressure to get something done. we have seen some of
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 12:00pm PST
and boehner are meeting to discuss the fiscal cliff. we are hearing the president's planning to present a smaller offer. for the latest, we bring in peter alexander from the white house and mike viqueira from capitol hill. peter, let's talk about what's going on at the white house meeting. i hear senators are optimistic about a mini deal which, of course, will raise taxes on those above $400,000. expand the amt, cut some spending. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, hearing a lot of different things right now. one of the items and ruled by rumor and then denials and frustrations, toure. we know that we saw senators mcconnell and reid arriving a short time ago. we didn't pelosi and boehner arrive yet but the vice president joe biden got here a short time ago, as well. there's other reporting from the hill right now about the potential that the president is going to return to what was basically his original outlined plan. perhaps a smaller plan but a plan where the threshold would be set closer to $250,000 as he initially had before the $400,000 offer that john boehner the white hous
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 10:00am PST
>>> maybe eight days and counting before a fiscal cliff. will a shift too the senate save the day? then paradise lost. will president obama leave hawaii behind the day after christmas if a deal is in the works and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial servic
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 6:00am PST
ceiling even before we tumble over the fiscal cliff. good morning from washington. it is thursday, december 27th. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert. two days after christmas and washington is back to work trying to harsh out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the senate will get back from the session after holiday break. the president is expected to arrive back to the white house without his family to get back to twork mework to meet the loo deadline. mike is at the white house. let's start with you. the consensus around the hill is that we are more likely than not to go over the fiscal cliff, but there is a small chance harry reid could take a house pass bill and amend it and send it back over to the house. what are you hear being that? >> conceivably, but when the president lights upon the south lawn and the marine one later this morning, it's unclear why he is coming back and who will be here with him. as you mentioned, speaker boehner remains in ohio where he is from. he is not coming back to washington. neither is the house of representatives. they simply said it's
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 1:00pm PST
on him to help address the fiscal cliff. he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains that i have not passed the resolution to pass the fiscal cliff but he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that would give -- that would give to middle class americans. that passed the senate. now, we know that republicans have buried themselves in procedural road blocks, everything we try to do around here. and now they are saying, well, we can't do the 250 because it wasn't blue-slipped, because it will be blue-slipped. mr. president, how does the american people react to that? there was a bill introduced by the ways and means committee in the house, sandy levin that called for this legislation. the speaker was going to bring it up to kill it but he kobt kill it and then we moved to plan b, the debacle of all debacles. it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it among the republicans it was so absurd. he meaning the speaker. so it's very clear now, mr. president, that
CNN
Dec 26, 2012 11:00pm PST
finest equipment >>> "outfront" next, just six days until we all fall over the fiscal cliff and tonight, there's no action on capitol hill. will that change by the end of the year? tonight, two congressmen come "outfront" to talk specifics. plus, arizona's attorney general backs a plan reminiscent of the nra to arm school principles. does more guns in schools begin to add up? and the biggest political fumbles. the best of the worst from our politicians. >>> i'm in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, christmas is over. washington get back to work. the countdown is on. the clock is ticking. you've got six days to prevent this country from going over the fiscal cliff and today at least, we didn't see any action. nothing. nothing, nada. now, i'm not trying to be a grinch here. i hope everyone's had a merry, merry christmas. just like the president prescribed. >> drink some eggnog, have some christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols. >> but today's the 26th. you've drunk, you eaten and you've sung. now is the time for action. the latest news out of washington tonight, treasury secretar
FOX News
Dec 30, 2012 1:00pm PST
reid will soon be coming out and address the fiscal cliff at the microphones any moment now. congressional leaders are holding marathon negotiations behind closed doors. we're only getting drips of what is going on racing against the clock as the final countdown to the fiscal cliff deadline begins. unless a deal is reached by january 1st, more than $500 billion in tax increases and spending cuts are set to kick in affecting nearly every american. hello, i'm gregg jarrett. >> arthel: i'm arthel nevil. welcome to a brand-new hour. as gregg just said the ball is in the senate's court. the republicans submitted a proposal to the senate democrats last night and are still waiting for a response. who is up at the podium right now. >> gregg: let's take a look at the shot. >> they are continuing to discuss this. we think there could be a path forward. one thing there is democrats have come out and made a change on cpi and republicans are concerned if that is not used as an offset to replace some of the spending cuts that would occur under sequester that democrats put forward and alte
CNN
Dec 28, 2012 4:00pm PST
and calls on the senate to act on the fiscal cliff. but with four days to go, will his push make a difference? >>> plus, politicians promised that the newtown shooting would change our national debate on guns. are those just empty promises? >>> we count down the top five political rivalries. who won, who lost, what it means for 2013. let's go "outfront." >>> breaking news. the president makes an 11th hour announcement tonight putting the pressure squarely on the senate so broker a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital life line of unemployment insurance to 2 million americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> and just moments ago, senator harry reid says he's readying a bill for a vot
CNN
Dec 24, 2012 11:00am PST
, various tax breaks slipping away. in other words what we're calling the fiscal cliff. a plan to stop it all from happening still alludes washington, so congress has broken camp for the holidays and the president has gone to holiday on vacation. brianna keilar is out there for us in honolulu, eight days away from the fiscal cliff. are there any contacts occurring on this topic between the president and anyone in congress, briana? >> reporter: there is an open line of communication, i would say, with senate democrats, hala. but there is really no substantive conversations between the folks that you with need for there to be conversations between in order to strike a deal. the white house and congressional republicans, and perhaps more alarmingly, senate democrats are not in conversations right now with senate republicans or with house republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on
FOX News
Dec 26, 2012 10:00am PST
from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. they say if president obama and congress don't make a deal we will almost certainly see a recession. do you buy that, steven? >> the congressional budget office is a nonpartisan group that does this and says we will in fact have an immediate rescission. they say that we come out of a short, sharp recession stronger than we would be if we didn't go into that recession in the first place. we stop borrowing money from the future to prop us up now. we have the immediate problems but in the long term we are in gets shape. that's what they are grappling this. how do they best structure this to do the least amount of damage now but get us to the good economy in the future. >> reporter: if you look up a research paper from the president's own economist you'll find in the long run we are healthier, short run, yeah, it's painful. is that what motivates some of the republicans that, you know, what are called chuckle heads, but maybe in the end they are wisdom heads. >> that is certainly part of the motivation there. the other part of the motivation, and
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 9:00pm PST
. not with the fiscal cliff. luckily for you, we here at "the rachel maddow show," we have been paying attention. we have had absolutely no other choice, unfortunately. and we are here to help you and everyone else trying to figure out how we got to this point we are in. right after that election, the day after the election, in fact, your new colleagues got to work immediately on the cliff. the day after the collection, republican house speaker john boehner put out this stirring call to action. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led. not as democrats or republicans but as americans. we want you to lead. not as a liberal or conservative but as president of the united states of america. >> mr. president, we are ready to be led. just show us the plan. that was encouraging. that seemed like we were going to have a deal, no problem. obama won the election. he'll hand them a plan. he'll make some small changes. that's how congress works, of course. pass it and we'll be done. we'll go home for christmas. not so much. president obama did hand them a plan as treasury secretary tim geith
FOX News
Dec 27, 2012 10:00am PST
: just four days to the new year and potentially the fiscal cliff so far little to know progress reported in making a deal to avert across the board tax hikes for 90% of the american households. it's been 10 days since the president and the speaker held any substantial face-to-face meetings. is time up or is it still possible for both sides to reach a last minute deal? let's put the question to byron york of the "washington examiner". too late or, gosh, maybe this is so easy you can wait until the last minute? >> i guess it depends whether you believe in miracles, gregg. gregg: i don't. >> the only thing that is really happening is the days are ticking by. i think what we've got is, you go first situation here. remember, after the so-called plan b failed in the house, john boehner, speaker of the house said, look, it's up to the senate. we'll not do anything more. we already passed a bill a while back that would extend bush tax cuts for everybody. it is up to the senate to do something. you have senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, the republican saying it is up to the democrats to do
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